[quote=“Solo Wing Dragon”]
I used to think that too, and Lundi’s journals do suggest that. However, on the old forums, Abadd posted something along the lines of “Same bodies, same dragon”, completely shooting down the theory I had about Lagi having a different body in each game.[/quote]
Actually I’ve been private messaging with Abadd (I hope he won’t mind me posting these) and he said he doesn’t know for sure what’s going on with that matter.
He gave some good ideas though (IDEAS, NOT official info since he doesn’t know) about the potential of the crests storing Lagi’s body or even the chance of them being gateways to Sestren for the dragon only. I’ll quote his PMs
*Abadd
Though this is just speculation, what is to say that the dragon crests don’t act as gates specifically built for dragons?
Me
But then there’s the matter of both of these ideas requiring the program to have access in Sestren in order to do those things, which seems it would be something Sestren (the creature in control be4 the conclusion of PDS) would get in the way of…
Abadd
As seems to be the case with almost everyone, you must first take into consideration what the nature of the “impurity” is, and what it could possibly affect.
Think of how computer viruses work. They use “proper” computer functions to execute their own vile plans. They’ll use a normal function to propogate themselves, so computers hardly notice the difference, until something goes very wrong and then the system crashes :)*
Yeah I deleted the first mail that said the idea of storing Lagi in the crests (or was it storing Lagi in Sestren through the crests?) so I couldn’t quote it here…maybe he’ll post and clarify…
Anyway I suppose these are as good theories as any
Maybe the crests are gates to Sestren?The dragon enters one thus entering in Sestren.Then it travels to another one from there.That would explain why we see a dragon crest at the begginnig of Saga.
They aren’t originally dragon crests but are turned so once Lagi enters them.
Surely Sestren couldn’t just ban Lagi the Program permanently (if he didn’t then what i say could be true) or could it?
One thing I’m positive and have always been : Lagi dind’t die in Zwei nor in PD1 nor in Saga and to some extent neither did it in Orta.
Yeah, the whole “gateways to Sestren” idea occured to me as well at one point. The truth really seems to depend on how the dragon crest in Shelcoof from Panzer Dragoon Saga is meant to fit in, though (if it’s meant to fit in at all), as that’s the only time we’ve seen a crest literally “do” something.
Now at the end of Panzer Dragoon Zwei Lundi looked up at that crest and said “Lagi”, and he also wrote in his diary that Lagi’s body was lying around in a cold and lifeless state. In PDS, we apparently see whatever went into that crest come out; and if that weird little Coolia pup wasn’t meant to be the spirit or essence of the deceased Lagi (which would have been stored inside the crest at the end of Zwei if this were the case), it surprises me that nothing else is suggested as clearly.
Edge does ask if the baby dragon is his dragon’s offspring, which could be gentle hint, and Lundi may not have been 100% sure if Lagi was in fact dead when Lundi found his body in Shelcoof.
We know Lagi can reproduce somehow. The question is: how?
There are other reasons why I believe they are the same dragon, but I’ll save them for another time.
I was thinking…what if Lagi was given the ability to SELF-REPLICATE? Viruses, in nature, make exact copies of themselves - and we pretty much are given the impression that the Heresy program was a virus…so it would make sense if this ability was passed on from the program to the dragon.
I like this idea a hell of a lot more than the self-reproduction idea. That’s just stupid.
EDIT: This would also make the Dragon Crests as incubators. They would literally be a cocoon for the ‘new’ Dragon ‘heir’.
i wonder if many people actually consider that a plausible theory
i can’t think of anything that would stand against it and probably, if it were true, it would not have been in such a crass method as i’m sure we all imagined when confronted with the idea.
seriously, what do you guys think of the “heir” at the end of orta?
orta’s “reproductive” abilities may not involve anything akin to the human reproductive system. it could just be a special ability when interfacing with some kind of ancient technology; perhaps the cradle(s).
abadd stated that he needed orta’s body to fill the world with drones. he wanted to possess her body, not get his ancient mack on with her.
Orta’s reproductive ability propably came from her being half human since drones do not reproduce…
And I’m sure that the ability to interface with some kind of machinery would NOT be called reproduction at all…
IMO Abadd wanted to possess her body (as you said) and make himself some sort of drone queen (like an alien queen xcept for drones…meh) >_>
And, again, the ending basically states it was the dragon that created the baby dragon and NOONE else…
She had entered Sestren. He had access to her genes already without needing to fight her or talk to her and ask for her help.[/quote]
If he did have access to that kind of information he wouldn’t need Orta anyway, because he would have access to the information Azel had. He probably couldn’t access that part of the Sestren system.
By saying all he needs is Orta’s DNA you assume he can do anything Azel can do already. (what’s he gonna do with the DNA? Obviously he’ll have to create something from it just like Azel created Orta)
But if that was the case he wouldn’t even need Orta, he’d just repeat the process Azel did and create a being like Orta, just different and use it’s DNA or whatever then >_>
From what I can gather Abadd genuinely did just need Orta’s genetic code. My best attempt at an explanation is that he needed her genes because a normal Drone’s genes couldn’t be reproduced or replicated due to an intentional design flaw, but her genes could be because of her unique nature. It seemed to me that he wanted to use Orta’s DNA to “patch up” or modify this flaw in his own genetic code, so that he could then create a race of clones or near-clones of himself (hence “I will be able to reproduce myself infinitely”).
Whatever the details are though, it looks like Abadd didn’t have access to Orta’s genetic code from Sestren and that he also couldn’t work out how to make a Drone-human hybrid like Azel did. By the way, if you’re willing to take Abadd’s (the poster’s) word for it, he’s said in the past that Abadd did only need Orta’s DNA and not her actual body.
