I mean that the significance of the dragon crest - which the final sequence of the game focuses entirely upon - would never be explained otherwise.
I’m afraid I don’t agree with that reasoning at all. Wouldn’t that be like arguing that Lagi’s transformation into the Solo Wing in Zwei can’t be a part of the plot because the player can screw up and fail to attain it?
Not necessarily. As Geoff has pointed out in the past, the baby dragon could just be some kind of essence that Lagi stored within the crest.
No, in my opinion that ending is just proving to us that this dragon really is Lagi. it connects all the forms Lagi has had in the previous games, since he was a baby that Lundi raised with the forms he takes in Saga.
If that really was to prove the merge then he would have had the solo wing wing form in the previous video as well. It wouldn’t make sense if he transformed to the solo wing AFTER the sequence of entering sestren.
To be honest I don’t think that we should be so concerned about the other Zwei crests, mainly because A) they cannot be a part of whatever passes for the “true” plot and B) Team Andromeda didn’t seem to have hammered out every future plot detail at that stage several years before Saga’s completion.
The dragon crests must have been created in the Ancient Age, and my best guess is that they were all created with whatever image they had on them, as there’s no way that it can be a dragon’s body. The crests in the “wrong” endings of Zwei probably just (“coincidentally”) turn out to have the form of the dragon that you finished the game with on them so that it makes sense to the player. If you finished the game with a Bridadewing and you saw a Solo Wing crest, it proably wouldn’t make as much sense. Thus, they made it how it was: so that the ending of Zwei would make sense at the time that Zwei was released.
As I said, the prospect of a different crest inside Shelcoof is definitely not a part of the “real” plot anyway, and this supposed true storyline is apparently what we’re considering.
Except we do have proof of that actually happening from the next games and any other references.
How is that wallpaper “error filled” by the way? I see nothing wrong with it and if any names are wrong, I don’t think that’s really importand comparing to what it’s showing seeing as its made by japanese and the names are english.
Wow guys, I didn’t expect so many replies so quickly.
I can’t remember exactly what he said, but it was along those lines, yes. He said that they the D-Types were “programs” that could download themselves into (I think he wrote) “living creatures”, and in the case of the Heresy dragon, a coolia.
Sestren shouts the words “Activation of D-Type 01… (pronounced zero one) confirmed” in its final memory orb, which is a statement that coincides with what the Tower said at the beginning of Panzer Dragoon: “Unit 01, activated”. And later when the Dark Dragon enters the Tower: “Unit 01… confirmed”. Couldn’t that mean Dragon Prototype 01?
Since we never find out who or what the elusive Unit 02 actually was, I believe Sestren’s actual words (in its final memory orb) could be referring to another prototype dragon (the Heresy dragon).
The voice coming from the Tower only states that both units were activated, but didn’t necessarily activate them then and there. If Sestren was aware of the Heresy dragon (and we’re pretty certain it was) Unit 02 could be how it defined the rogue dragon. The Dark Dragon is later confirmed to be what Sestren described as Unit 01, but we never learn the identity of the second unit. I suppose this all goes back to whether the ancients created the Heresy dragon or not. I find it peculiar that Sestren confirms the activation of two separate units, then two Solo Wing dragons ridden by almost identical riders begin racing towards the Tower.
I doubt Team Andromeda had everything figured out by the time Panzer Dragoon was developed, and yet the subsequent games seem to be built around the theme of the original.
Perhaps if we visit more of the ancient Towers, their guardian dragons will come to life.
It would make a great deal of sense if the gold dragon was Sestren. Sestren too, took the form of a Solo Wing dragon. I honestly can’t rule out another possibility though. As for how and why the Heresy dragon managed to take control of a system it probably was never meant to control, I have no idea.
The best explanation is probably that the crest adopts the image of the dragon that left its essence behind in it. There’s no way that the crest could literally be Lagi’s body; it is confirmed as just being a physical object.
Isn’t a body a physical object??Where has it been confirmed??[/quote]
I think the Solo Wing dragon crest, and the other crests we see (Gash shows Edge an old recording of a non-Solo Wing dragon crest in the Seeker stronghold) are merely engravings.
The Solo Wing crest, in my opinion, is a symbol of the ancients’ most fearsome dragon.
In the Panzer Dragoon Zwei true ending, we don’t see the dragon crest’s throat glow with green light until the camera fades to black. The portrayal of the Bioluminary Oscillator on the engraved dragon’s throat could even be more symbolic than anything else.
[quote=“Geoffrey Duke”]Since we never find out who or what the elusive Unit 02 actually was, I believe Sestren’s actual words (in its final memory orb) could be referring to another prototype dragon (the Heresy dragon).
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One thing pisses me off : the Language heard in PD1’s intro is not the same language we know today.
You could expect to hear a “Proto” in the beginning of PD1’s intro but you don’t…
[quote=“Geoffrey Duke”]In the Panzer Dragoon Zwei true ending, we don’t see the dragon crest’s throat glow with green light until the camera fades to black. The portrayal of the Bioluminary Oscillator on the engraved dragon’s throat could even be more symbolic than anything else.
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We don’t see the throat of the dragon depicted in the crest glow green until the screen fades. I was entertaining the thought that the placement of the green light was the ending’s way of conveying the true meaning of the “ominous light”. The dragon crest may contain nothing at all. When Edge comes into contact with the Solo Wing crest inside Shelcoof, we don’t see a glowing green light anywhere on its surface.
I don’t have a concrete opinion on this other than my belief that the Solo Wing crests were symbols of the ancients’ most prized dragon.
Edge never encounters the crest we see in the end of Zwei, the placement of the crest he picks up is TOTALLY different from the placement it had in PDZ’s ending as far as I can remember. PDZ shows it inside a HUGE hall doesn’t it? I don’t remember seeing anything like that in PDS. However even if he did, why would it be glowing? Lagi isn’t in it anymore
Oh and, I think the crests shown ARE different in size. The crest we see at the beginning of PDS is also bigger than the crest Edge picks up from shellcoof isn’t it? And to this I’ll add again that in the crest Edge picks up even a baby dragon is TOO big to fit in…
On top of that if they are just decorations of sorts showing their most prized dragon, why on earth would that be placed in shellcoof?
[quote=“GehnTheBerserker”]The green light could be just something that was visible only in the small time period after the dragon’s essence entered it.
But I ask you : what do you make of the Baby Wing in PDS then?Surely he WAS inside the crest…[/quote]
I believe the baby dragon was Lagi’s offspring, and that Lagi left him in the crest for a reason we’ve yet to ascertain (perhaps he was a spare host body for the Heresy dragon).
What other purpose do engravings serve? We do know they can store living entities (no doubt via converting physical matter into data or something) if we don’t discount the baby dragon as an in-game bonus.
The baby dragon was a cute way to get the solo dragon in PDS. Japanese people like cute things.
I was surprised when I touched the crest in the red ruins and the two dragons turned into one solo form. It was very interesting. Maybe the purpose of the little thing was to achieve that emotional effect.
