California.
Er… I mean…
Well, it’ll be pretty messed up, if I can guess why the humans are gone…
Not yet Gehn. Not yet. Maybe after the impending nuclear holocaust.
Impending?
You all have a far too bad idea of our current situation methinks…
I think it was slight sarcasm, Gehn.
I thought that was my job.You learn fast young padawan 
(@ Geoff)
even if it wasn’t sarcasm it should be…
[quote=“TheSharpEdge”] See, the biggest thing I will ever hate about America is that they unveiled the nuclear bomb to the world, over half a century ago.
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Personally I think it was far better than Nazi Germany as they were developing one at the same time.
Not to bash you or anything Sharpie, I just like history. ^^
Far better than Nazi Germany?I can’t see why.
Even the Anime we see nowadays are a reflex of the impact that thing had in japanese culture…
WW2 wasn’t about countries vs countries - it was about governments against governments. Governments which didn’t pay attention to the people they supposedly represented (Japan and Germany being the prime offenders).
And what did the people of Hiroshima get for their apathy? Seven shades of **** bombed out of them. What’s worse is that their Emperor wasn’t even a supporter of the war, it was the military cojuling him into supporting it.
How little things have changed, though. Tony Blair takes our country to war, killing innocent civilians in our name. Yeah, because any well-adjusted person would want that.
Actually, the best example (and pretty much first) of the media responding to Hiroshima is Godzilla. Godzilla was essentially the West, with Japan bravely defended itself against the rampaging monster. Of course, as attitudes towards the west changed, Godzilla became a hero accordingly.
Personally I think it was far better than Nazi Germany as they were developing one at the same time.
Not to bash you or anything Sharpie, I just like history. ^^[/quote]
Hee. Kay. 
So you see, Americans aren’t the only ones at fault; the human race itself is pretty screwed up.
You would rather Germany have A-Bombed England instead of the US A-Bombing Japan? Unqustionably your freedom today would be nothing like how you would be living had we been bombed.
It’s only in your name if you allow it to be. If you don’t support the war it isn’t in your name. It was in the name of our country, and that’s what I take offence at.
(I know what you meant though, I’m just picking out a point that I believe)
[quote=“Shadow”]
You would rather Germany have A-Bombed England instead of the US A-Bombing Japan? Unqustionably your freedom today would be nothing like how you would be living had we been bombed.[/quote]
From what I gathered I think Ness meant that an Atom Bomb would always be in better hands if it was in America.(as opposed to Nazi Germany).
I don’t agree with that cause regardless of the target the bomb can only do harm…
Exactly my point o.o
Well that sin’t true.You can’t make me answer a question about whom I would prefer to be bombed.
England, Japan… who cares.No country deserves to be bombed and the evil would be done in both cases.
So that’s why.
I agree, the A bomb should never have been invented, however it was going to be invented in the end. Best that the allies were the ones to invent it first because they would probably be more restrained with using it. This may sound strange but I would rather there was another superpower with A bombs in the world. At the moment America holds all the cards and with their Star Wars programme they could nuke anywhere without retaliation. Maybe you think America would never nuke anywhere without good reason? I think America is capable of a lot more evil that people suspect even now and i wouldnt rule out them using nukes. At least with a standoff, neither side would use them
Well, it’s kinda a rhetorical question. It may sound harsh, but you should be glad Japan got bombed instead of England. Assuming someone had to get bombed at all, that is, as obviously I would rather a nuke never be used. The fact of the matter was though, that whomever created the bomb first would use it first. Germany on England, or America on Japan. There is no doubt in my mind that had Germany bombed England (most likely London) with an atomic device then the war would have ended differently.
And that would’ve had a massive effect on the lives of everyone in Europe. Portugal included.
Right. Look at the sort of foolish initiative that Bush took in going into Iraq. He gave a whole ton of shit reasons to go to war, that weren’t even true (such as about the WMDs). What he really said surmounts to something like:
“Piss off, World. We’re the ones with the nukes, and we can bomb anywhere we want and get as much oil as we like from the Middle East.”
that will only last so long and in the mean time all sides will keep making them too gain an advantage/keep their stake. it’s been stablished that we could technically vaporize each human on earth in an atomic explosion but we that happening is a bit far fetched…
but what people don’t seem to get is that if only a few nukes were detonated in certain areas, that could potentially kill most of the human race through famine. nukes play hell with the environment and climate of an area and even minor changes could cause a species to go extinct. say the temperature rises or drops by a few degrees, that may cause the waters to be uninhabitable for a certain species of plankton; which is at the base of most of the aquatic food chain. and if a few more were detonated, it could cause unpredictable worldwide climate changes.
i’m not content with ANYONE having nuclear technology and right now; when world leaders need to be cleaning this **** up to make sure it is never used again, they just keep making more and aren’t taking any steps to stop those that are newy learning of their capabilities.
I don’t know what part you think Engalnd plays in Europe right now (out at that time) but the US would still “save” Europe like they did.
England always was separated from Europe anyways…
The question is : would England become one of the epicenters of the technological evolution?
[quote=“Shadow”]Well, it’s kinda a rhetorical question. It may sound harsh, but you should be glad Japan got bombed instead of England. Assuming someone had to get bombed at all, that is, as obviously I would rather a nuke never be used. The fact of the matter was though, that whomever created the bomb first would use it first. Germany on England, or America on Japan. There is no doubt in my mind that had Germany bombed England (most likely London) with an atomic device then the war would have ended differently.
And that would’ve had a massive effect on the lives of everyone in Europe. Portugal included.[/quote]
Don’t make it sound like it was a choice between the two, England and Japan, because the fact is it WASN’T. I could go as random as you have gone here and say: Well it would have been better if the atom bomb had instead been used on some uninhabited island since it wouldn’t have killed so many innocents… So, yeah, between the two, Japan and Unihabited island which would you prefer? Rhetorical question ofcourse. Hurray!
Besides, this wasn’t the only HUGE “mistake” the US has done, anyone remember a thing called the Vietnam War? Anyone remember all the chemical weapons used there? I think that’s the only weapon that can be compared to a nuclear warhead in terms of the damage it can cause to humans (and not only) and how this damage can follow in generations upon generations after the ones that were actually killed cos of it…
[quote=“Al3xand3r”]
Don’t make it sound like it was a choice between the two, England and Japan, because the fact is it WASN’T. [/quote]
Perhaps it was, perhaps it wasn’t. But the problem is, if you remember America dropping nukes on Japan, you’ll remember world-saviours who helped everyone by killing millions of Japanese citizens. But if Germany had dropped nukes on England, they’d be remembered as ruthless murderers. Putting economics and such aside, I think Japan getting nuked is MORALLY just as bad as England getting nuked.
As Al3x and Megatherium said, the effects of the nuke are just TOO devastating to even say one place getting nuked is better than another.