You said Atolm is ALSO a guardian dragon, that ALSO is what made it sound like you accept Heresy being one as well.
Does a dragonmare really do that? I thought it just exploded cos of being destroyed… Either way that doesn’t mean it’s the same thing, I ask again, why doesn’t the guardian dragon or the Dark Dragon or even Atolm use it? Hell even Abadd’s dragonmare doesn’t do it…
And why is it “conceivable” that the most powerful dragon can “self destruct”? I’d think the most powerful dragon would be the one with the LEAST chance of being able to do that since it really wasn’t likely to need it.
How do we know it’s a self explosion anyway? It can just be Heresy performing another function that causes the tower to explode in such a way from the inside and Heresy to get exhausted from the effort of surviving that blast therefor having to hybernate after…or something
Lance, ofcourse, Lagi is only a dragon BECAUSE of that program after all, it couldn’t be any other way. Unless you mean that even as a dragon it wasnt meant to have that “attack” so it can still be a guardian dragon with an added ability. I dont know if we can base on anything that the Heresy program added something extra on Lagi that the Heresy dragon that would be created wasn’t meant to have. All other times in order to add something extra, Heresy needed data, like the d-units being required to morph to the lightwing dragon. If that “attack” wasn’t designed by the Ancients as part of the potential Heresy dragon then how could the program add it without data on how this “attack” would work?
Al3x: I agree that Lagi wasn’t exactly self-destructing when he destroyed those Towers: all we know is that he exausted his body completely (at the end of Zwei and presumably PD1 as well).
O_OWow,wow,wow.Rewind mister.What exactly do you mean by that?[/quote]
I was just talking about the program that came out of Sestren and entered into Lagi’s body. The “Heresy Program” as we usually know it, but I was calling it the “black dragon program” because it’s a program that’s black and shaped kind of like a dragon, and because I’m currently considering it to be in some way equal to its golden counterpart (whatever that turns out to be).
The form that the Heresy Dragon (aka black dragon program, I think) uses in sestren is the final form of all dragons, right?
It is the same form the guardian dragon uses in PD Zwei if you play the game well enough.
Maybe it wasn’t a kamikaze attack after all. Lundi says that he found the dragon’s body inside shellcoof. Maybe only his oscilatory organ (the glowing green thing) gets exploded or, like Al3x said, it was some other thing.
It’s a good food for though.
As far as I’m aware this is never confirmed, and although last week I was firmly supporting the theory that the Ancients made the Heresy Program (black dragon program) to shut the Towers down, after some careful thought I get the impression that it was acting on its own when it decided to do that. (Although it definitely was made by the Ancients).
[quote=“SegaTecToy”]The form that the Heresy Dragon (aka black dragon program, I think) uses in sestren is the final form of all dragons, right?
It is the same form the guardian dragon uses in PD Zwei if you play the game well enough.
Maybe is wasn’t a kamikaze attack after all. Lundi says that he found the dragon’s body inside shellcoof. Maybe only his oscilatory organ (the glowing green thing) gets exploded or, like Al3x said, it was some other thing.
It’s a good food for though.[/quote]
A) No, the final form of the Guardian Dragon is NOTHING like the black/gold dragon symbols…And I think it’s considered “well enough playing” when you have attained the Blue Dragon form…
B) The glowing green thing appears to be still glowing in Lagi’s body as seen in the endings of PD Zwei.
[quote=“SegaTecToy”]The form that the Heresy Dragon (aka black dragon program, I think) uses in sestren is the final form of all dragons, right?
It is the same form the guardian dragon uses in PD Zwei if you play the game well enough.[/quote]
I’m not entirely sure what you mean by this, STT; would you elaborate a bit?
Remember that isn’t Lagi’s body though: that’s the Dragon Crest that he deposited the energy/consciousness/essence entity into, which later gets released in PD Saga as the dragon pup. Lagi’s body must evidently have been elsewhere, and not actually seen in that ending sequence.
As far as I’m aware this is never confirmed, and although last week I was firmly supporting the theory that the Ancients made the Heresy Program (black dragon program) to shut the Towers down, after some careful thought I get the impression that it was acting on its own when it decided to do that. (Although it definitely was made by the Ancients).[/quote]
Sure the HD was created in the ancients’ age. Maybe the rebels reprogrammed him to actually destroy sestren. But what invalidate this theory IMO is that the time passed between the rebelion and the beginning of the HD actions is too big. Thousands of years.
I like to think that the HD made all that from his own will, after seeing the towers putting mankind on the brink of extinction. (though in Orta, humans proved they can do that without any help)
The crest definitely wasn’t his body; you can tell from the high quality renders that it’s just a carved crest. And Lundi’s diary confirms that the crest couldn’t be Lagi’s body, because he says that he touched the body and it was cold. He couldn’t have climbed fifty feet up the wall to touch the crest, of course; the body must have been on ground level somewhere, where he could get to it.
I don’t get your point Gehn, I said that as a possibility, it matters little to the rest of the theory if it’s true or not, it just sounds better to me that way, that’s all. The glowing horn clearly shows it’s a function other than the usual laser blasts, I just don’t see why that other function has to be a huge ass explosion. It might just as well be a kind of interfacing with the towers’ inner workings causing themselves to explode.
