Panzer Dragon Prequel

Do you think that the next Panzer Dragoon shooter should be a prequel for Panzer Dragoon 1 telling how the dragon became a solo wing and who was the misterious Sky Rider?

If Sega release a new panzer game it could be a good idea to tell this unknown part of the PD series story.

Well, I for one would like to see this unknown story revealed at some stage, but I very much doubt that a new Panzer game would cover it; and I’m not sure if the next game should. The end of Orta seemed to be looking to the unknown future, and I think that the direction of a new game would be quite clear from a developer’s point of view. It would seem weird for the plot to jump back several decades instead of dealing with the immediate (Orta) plot.

Saying that, the life and times of the mysterious Sky Rider and his own adventure with the dragon would certainly be interesting to find out about. Maybe a future Panzer game could incorporate this as a sub-scenario; something like Iva’s story in PDO, but with classic Panzer-shooter gameplay instead?

Sega already developed it. The game was called Panzer Dragoon Zwei. :slight_smile:

I would kill myself if there is a prequel to Eins.

The mystery would remain alive if he remained dead, however. :wink:

We both know the prequel to Panzer Dragoon was meant to be Panzer Dragoon Zwei. The game did an adequate job of providing us with a background story.

I don’t really want to see another prequel; I want a new RPG sequel.

A prequel to Zwei then, whatever =p

I would say exactly the same as Shadow. If I found out I had waited all this time for the next PD game only to find out it was a prequel, I would be positively suicidal. Maybe a Pandora’s Box Beta or some sort of mini game could clear up the Sky Rider mystery?

I believe he should remain a mystery. I’m fond of forever wondering who he was, just as I’m fond of figuring out all the other mysteries left in the wake of each game.

[quote=“Geoffrey Duke”]

We both know the prequel to Panzer Dragoon was meant to be Panzer Dragoon Zwei. The game did an adequate job of providing us with a background story.

I don’t really want to see another prequel; I want a new RPG sequel.[/quote]

Actually I was reading Lance’s theory when this idea struck me:
After PDZ the heresy program restarted its evolution from zero. It obtained a new body (probably a new coolia pup) and it was needing a new rider. Somehow it evolved from a lower form to a brand new Solo Wing. It pursued the Dark Dragon who (I think) was wanting to restart the tower that the empire discovered to prevent the humans to mess with a tower.

Who was that rider and how the new dragon evolved to the ultimate form are big unanwsered questions. Maybe a subplot would be a good way to get these anwsers.

Or, like, Geoffrey Duke said, sometimes a little mistery is better…

I dont want another prequel, we already know what happened anyway :slight_smile: PDZ was good enough for me.

What i’d like to see is a sequel in which we learn a lot about the empire. I’d love to see a PD game from the Imperial point of view. Plus it’d be great to fly a stinger or raider around for a bit. Imagine being the gunner on a warship.

Remember, the heresy program alone ISN’T Lagi. The purpose of Zwei was to show us the dragon’s origins.

Id be happy with any PD game and I wouldnt mind a game about the sky rider although id prefer something else. Sky rider is cooler than orta in my opinion however on the down side it would be a bit of a cop out and an insult to zwei. It would be nice to have some real classic gameplay/world designs.
I think it will be EXTREMELY unlikely that this will happen though, smilebit are trying to get a new fan base on this generation of consoles and they will very very likely stick with their established main character, Orta. Id also be suprised if a new RPG addresses the events from Saga to a great extent, new fans dont really have the opportunity to play previous games so it would be a bad design decision. We may find out what happened to Edge/Azel but I doubt it would be the main story as new fans would care more about what happens/has happened with Orta.

Yes, but in PDS we saw that Lagi’s essence (or consciousness or soul) was imprisoned inside Shellcoof, in the Genesis Chamber. Only when the player liberates the baby dragon this essence gets free.
So maybe Lagi wasn’t a part of the second dragon, the dragon of PD (or maybe the baby dragon is not Lagi itself but something else. Maybe a clone or the son of Edge’s dragon like Edge though, who knows? :slight_smile:

I agree with you, but the people who made the PD series surprised us more than once.

The problem is, there isn’t really a place for a large story behind the Sky Rider. Both the Empire and Sestren did not record any of the events that happened to the Sky Rider, which suggests that his part to play was small and insignificant in the grand scheme of things. Maybe he encountered another empire or something, but it doesn’t seem likely to me. He was probably a rebel drone who was able to team up with Lagi, perhaps the drone rider prepared for him in the Ancient Age like Azel and Atolm?

Precisely.

I swear I will find that interview with Smilebit in which they stated all the dragons in each game are in fact the same dragon. For now, all I can say is I don’t agree with Lance’s theory, despite how well he’s tied everything together.

Panzer Dragoon Zwei provided the background story for the dragon, explaining how Lagi reached his current form in Panzer Dragoon. Whether the Heresy dragon possessed another coolia or whether he remained in the same coolia (Lagi) is still debatable.

[quote=“Solo Wing Dragon”] He was probably a rebel drone who was able to team up with Lagi, perhaps the drone rider prepared for him in the Ancient Age like Azel and Atolm?
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Im not so sure about that, remember Atolm was created in the ancient age and dug up. Lagi isnt a construction of the ancient age, he is a mutated coolia so the ancients would have no way of knowing that lagi would happen and wouldnt have made a drone for him.

He actually is created as well, the heresy program changed him into the same as an Ancients’ creation would be.
How else would you explain the fact there is records of the various dragon forms and their abilities and such? This would not be possible since it’s the first time this dragon and those forms appear :slight_smile:
Edit: So yeah that drone would be created for the heresy dragon that downloaded itself into Lagi the Coolia changing him into a Dragon, not a drone created for the Coolia :slight_smile: Hope ya know what I mean :slight_smile:

Im not so sure about that, remember Atolm was created in the ancient age and dug up. Lagi isnt a construction of the ancient age, he is a mutated coolia so the ancients would have no way of knowing that lagi would happen and wouldnt have made a drone for him.[/quote]

But the Heresy dragon was set to be released at a certain time. It was obviously reprogrammed, and as such, whoever was responsible for this would’ve built/stole a drone rider for him in preparation. The rebels needed to open a pathway to Sestren in order to destroy its core AI, which meant they needed willing drones. The Sky Rider was no doubt one of them.

Well, I’m just guessing when I say he was prepared for Lagi in the Ancient Age. He could have been another random rebel drone or a another species entirely (although I don’t see what else he could be).

Let me rephrase my wording: “He was probably a rebel drone who was able to team up with the Heresy Dragon.” Like Alex said, the dragon (in Saga at least) had set forms that had various abilities and such. I find it hard to believe that Lagi simply mutated into those forms due to an unguided process… no, rather the Ancients must have designed the dragon’s forms to ultimate transform into the Solo Wing. The data needed to do this would probably be part of the Heresy program.