If history were to judge a gaming company for their platforms, would it have been better for a system to be the best or for a system to be the most successful(and if it’s both, props to the system)? For example, I think Sega’s best system was the Dreamcast, because it was powerful but had a lot of untapped potential. Just look at the differences between a game that appeared on the Dreamcast and a game that reappeared on a later system, even the X Box(i.e. Grandia II, Ecco the Dolphin, Shenmue). However, I think Sega’s most successful system is the Genesis because it sold a lot of high quality games, and I hold fonder memories of playing it than the Dreamcast.
I guess you can also look at it across the systems of a current generation. Like is the X box the best because it’s a top notch powerhouse? Or is PS2 the best because it sells more high quality games despite being weaker? Or what have you. . . .
P.S. I don’t want this to become a battle of the systems. :anjou_embarassed:
It’s the games that matter tbh. And not in the “successful” sense. So, to me, the best Sega system was the Saturn (I didn’t have a genesis/mega drive II so I can only compared with the Dreamcast) because of the higher number of high quality games that I enjoyed (Panzer Dragoon series, Shining Force III, all the Capcom and SNK games, Virtua Fighter II, etc etc etc) while from the current consoles I own none but I’m fond of the GameCube the most due to the likes of Zelda, Metroid, Pikmin, The Four Swords (can’t really put this alongside regular Zelda), Resident Evil series, etc etc etc)… So it’s neither the “most powerful” nor the “most succesful” for me
A tough call, I would have to go with he Dreamcast as the best system, simply because it tried new things very powerful even though we never really got to see any game that truly pushed it to it’s limits.
The most succesful system I would have to go with the Saturn. I don’t mean succesful financially but succesfully in terms of game quality throughout its life span, and on top of that the system was pushed to its absolute hardware limits with some games and it was seen what could be done.
So basically Dreamcast is the best because of it’s untapped power and ability to try new things. (VMU, Online Play)
But Saturn is the most succesful from a games point of view. (More definitive classics.)
I say this being a once zealous promoter of the Dreamcast, that is until I got a Saturn and purchased some very high quality games.
There is no such thing as a “best” console if you ask me. XD In the end everyone will have a different opinion on what’s best, heck for some the best product is the most succeful one, so for those it’d be one and the same thing. So yeah. >.>;;
Sega makes wonderful systems and games; unfortunately, for them, they had a competitor at one time that just totally beat the shit out of them - yes, this was the NEC PC-Engine (Turbo Grafx 16 CD). This, my friends, was the best system of all time…and it had the best games for it too…and we’re not talking a small handful of games, we’re talking about the majority of them. Out of the 448 PC-Engine CDs realeased for the system, roughly 280 of those games were steller (I know because I have the majority of them)
[victim]After so many of those insightful posts one tends to “look at the mirror” and ponder about one’s shallowness or/and intelectual “voidness” [/victim]
well actually, its definately that or the PS1. Althought it may have not actuall been the “best”, it sold extremely wel and thats all that matters. Once a company gets the general public thinking every console is a “PS2” (or simmilarly, thinking all mp3 players are “iPods” in Apples case) they have won.
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I’ve never played one, nor know much about it. What games in particular did you think made the system so good?[/quote]
Oh boy, did you ever miss out on the best stuff the 16-bit era had to offer.
Some of the best games for the Turbo Duo/PC-Engine are/were:
-Ys Book I and II
-Ys III (for the awesome soundtrack)
-Ys IV: The Dawn of Ys
-Dragonslayer: Legend of Heroes
-Dragonslayer: Legend of Heroes II
-Dynastic Hero (A Sega game for the Duo…Wonderboy IV)
-Spriggan
-Spriggan Mark II
-Macross 2036
-Cosmic Fantasy 2, 3, and 4
-Snatcher (superior version compared to the Sega CD/Mega CD)
-Rayxanbar II and III
-Legend of Xanadu I and II
-Emerald Dragon (Excellent AAA RPG)
-Dragon Knight II and III
-Dracula X: Rondo of Blood (the only TRUE Castlevania)
-Dead in the Brain I and II
-Beyond Shadowgate
-Anearth Fantasy Story: Seiya Monogatatori (AAA RPG)
And that’s just the tip of the iceberg. This system was so ahead of its time, and to this day, has aged very well compared to the SNES/Genesis.
I have heard of the Ys games before (there’s one coming out on the PSP soon I think), but I can’t say I know a lot about them. Were they translated? How many of the above games actually made it out of Japan?
I’m not too big on playing RPGs in Japanese, you see.
I have heard of the Ys games before (there’s one coming out on the PSP soon I think), but I can’t say I know a lot about them. Were they translated? How many of the above games actually made it out of Japan?
I’m not too big on playing RPGs in Japanese, you see. [/quote]
Out of the RPGs listed above, only 5 of them came here:
Ys Book I and II
Ys III
Dragon Slayer
Dynastic Hero
Beyond Shadowgate
The Turbografx 16 was negelected here in the states, unfortunately…but it doesn’t matter to me anyway, since I can play the Japanese RPGs just fine. Also, most of the games for the Turbo Duo were RPGs and Shooters…not very many platformers or sports. It was great.
I remember being envious of the TG-16 owners getting the expanded versions of the Valis games with cinematics. Those made it to the US (or at least Valis II and III did, I think Valis I may have been a Famicom game). Poor Genesis owners like myself had to make do with the ports.
All 4 Valis’ were for the Turbo Duo; Valis IV was the best out of all them. Valis I went under the name Mugen Senshi Valis and was never ported over here…and for good reason…it was a pre-first generation game. Valis II was a first generation game, and you could tell because the cinematics were all done in a little square in the center of the television and didn’t even use most of the TV space. Valis III and IV had full screen cinematics and they were great…the platformer gameplay aspect, however, was repetitive and dull though - but then again, most platformers fall under that category.
The best thing about the Turbo Duo CD games is that the music for 99% of them were all in redbook audio. To this day, even the next generation systems can’t beat the the Turbo Duo in terms of sound quality.
The question should be…Is there REALLY a ‘best’ console?
Well, excluding the crappy ones (3DO, stuff like that) I would say there is no better console. But when it comes to success, I think the NES is probably the most successful console. I mean it got millions of kids hooked on gaming. Most of which are adults now, and they still continue to play video games.
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