now that i think about it level 6 legacy your being lead threw a tower that is pashily deactivated like it’s ability to create monsters is gone, but it’s defences are up and the gate to the world where sestren was, and the fact that all the monsters are pure type monsters. probibly abadds tower and it fell when he was completing a mission, and it’s possibly where the resessitaion prosses was lost at 100%.
think about it and give my your replies.
In PDO there were no Towers.The ruin in level & is just that : a ruin.
Towers weren’t the only ancient buildings populated by monsters, with defense systems, and important functions…
yes thats true but don’t towers only have gateways into sestren’s world?
No.But that’s something we only leanred with PDO.
k i see now
Has it really been confirmed that this ruin wasn’t a Tower? While there’s no real proof that this is a Tower, the vertical tunnel you travel through could still be a hint at its true nature.
Well I’m sure there are still towers in the Pandra world.Just not Towers.
Active Towers anyways.
Yes, I think it was Abadd (poster) who confirmed this.
While it’s been suggested quite a lot of times that the Episode 6 ruin is a Tower I really get the impression that it’s meant to be a normal Ancient Age ruin. The deep vertical passage is admittedly quite Tower-like, but then the ruins in the previous games all went very deep below the earth as well.
The important thing is that the world’s Towers were all meant to be deactivated following the events of Panzer Dragoon Saga, but the Episode 6 ruin is one of the most completely active-looking ruins in any of the games. For that reason it seems that we’re meant to just view it as a normal ruin instead of a Tower. It’s probably meant to be thought of as a genetics lab like the ruins of Uru from PD Saga, seeing as how Orta was meant to have been created there.
And it does seem that Sestren could be reached from ruins apart from Towers, as well; after all, the Episode 8 ruin must have been linked to Sestren too, for Orta to be able to come out of it there.
I think it’s pretty safe to assume that you can go to anywhere in the real world once you are in the Sestren space.But to get from the real world into Sestren you need portals.
Is it? How would the Sestren data network manage to turn Orta from a bunch of data back into a physical being without one of those data transformation gateways? Surely that’d be like saying you can download videos off the internet without a PC or an internet connection?
Remember how the Heresy Pogram downloaded itself into the coolia?
Did it use any sort of gate?
Well we never actually see it come out of Sestren; it’s attacked by the golden dragon and it spirals out of sight, then the next time we see it it’s roaming around as green energy, then it’s inside Lagi the Coolia. It isn’t exactly reassembled into a physical form either, it just gets purged out as energy; what I’m saying is that it seems you need special technology (the data transformation gateway) to turn a physical object into Sestren data, and vice versa. If you need such a device to upload physical things into the Sestren data network, it’d stand to reason that you’d need the same kind of device to turn them back into physical objects again if you wanted to get them out of the network.
Maybe.But we don’t have proof.
On one side we have PDO’s Episode 7’s final cutscene, on the other side we have the downloading of the Program into the coolia.
[quote=“GehnTheBerserker”]Maybe.But we don’t have proof.
On one side we have PDO’s Episode 7’s final cutscene, on the other side we have the downloading of the Program into the coolia.[/quote]
But the program doesn’t get downloaded directly into the Coolia; we simply don’t see how it got from being in the Sestren system to being in the physical world. Wouldn’t it make more sense for it to come through a gateway, the same way that it’d make more sense for an internet connection to come through a PC rather than assembling itself out of thin air?
And there is some fairly convincing evidence too, which I’ve already posted in the other thread…
Correct, else Azel wouldn’t have to destroy the tower after Edge went in to not let Sestren escape as she says… And Sestren would be able to escape whether there was a gate open or not…
I supose you are right.But that scene with the Program…
I need to rewatch it.
That’s what I want to know. In Panzer Dragoon Saga we are led to believe that Sestren can only be reached through an active Tower. Was this a lie? Were the Seekers wrong?
Not necessarily.
However, at around the same time as
the Great Fall, most of the Towers,
as well as most of the ruins, became
inactive and are nothing but tombs.
There are still a few active ruins that
continue to produce bio-engineered
creatures, or cause natural disasters
that are capable of leveling whole cities.
These disasters are believed to be
caused by malfunctions within
the Towers themselves.
I was thinking: the Seekers believed that the Towers wore down over time, but what if they meant to say that most of them became inactive over time? If a few Towers were still active, then they could’ve been keeping the environment in check, instead of the dormant Towers. However, the voice coming from the Tower in Panzer Dragoon does suggest it was partially active, unless it was Sestren working behind the scenes.
Hmm…
[quote=“Geoffrey Duke”]
That’s what I want to know. In Panzer Dragoon Saga we are led to believe that Sestren can only be reached through an active Tower. Was this a lie? Were the Seekers wrong?[/quote]
Good question. I always thought that the destroyed Atish you encountered just before you entered the heart of the structure was a hint that the ruin was a Tower. The vertical tunnel went all the way down to that point. And why was only the entrance of the ruin visible anyway? Perhaps because they didn’t want to make it obvious that it really was a Tower.
Most of the Towers, but not all?
What do you mean “Not necessarily.”? That was the whole point of Saga and it’s ending…