Abadd : i don’t think I fully understand you - who are these electoral voters?
Only eloctral votes count then?
Abadd : i don’t think I fully understand you - who are these electoral voters?
Only eloctral votes count then?
They are groups of mysterious people that vote for the president on the behalf of all the people living in the state they represent.
They are not elected, nor do they actually have to vote in line with who the people voted for.
In fact, in most states, the electoral college from each state casts all of their votes to the same candidate. i.e. California has 55 electoral votes. Despite how the public voted, or how many people on the electoral college want to vote for a different candidate, all 55 votes go to a single candidate.
I have no idea why they came up with this system, but supposedly, it was to prevent the uneducated, unwashed masses from blindly voting, or to prevent large cults or whatever from influencing the vote too much.
Also, it ensures that we stay with a two-party system, because it’s almost impossible for a third party’s candidate to get even a single electoral vote.
Whether that’s a good thing or not, I dunno.
But who are these people?Who appoints them?
This seems ridiculous…
Welcome to American logic
So the common american doens’t know who these people are and how they are picked?
This is outrageous!
I would have voted for the Green Party guy.
But why is it always a competition between 2? When never 3?
They might as well just only put 2 electee’s up in the first place
It doesn’t really matter who they are, it just matters who they vote for. And they always vote for whoever wins the popular vote in their state. So it’s really not as crazy as it looks, although it still is a pretty goofy system.
Actually, there have been several instances in which the electoral voter did not vote along the party line. Many states have enacted laws that assign fines or other penalties to electoral voters who do not vote for their appropriate party, but experts say that in such a case, those laws would not stand up before the Constitution.
48 out of the 50 states, the people sort of actually vote for the electoral voters, but their names do not appear on the ballots. Essentially, the way it works is that electoral voters are selected from each political party (there is no real requirement for who they are, only who they cannot be… such as incumbent officials, etc.). By selecting a certain presidential candidate, it is implied that you vote for the electoral voters from the same party. And at that point, the electoral voters are supposed to vote for the person in their party, but there is nothing legally binding them from doing so. Well, there are the state laws that I mentioned above, but federal law/the Constitution trumps those.
i think it’d be neat
it is legal to annoy people but it is not legal harm them and that logic is the logic of our government. they can do this and that gradually with only grumbling and meaningless protests, it is only when things get done too quickly that revolutions happen.
i have a whole list of indisputable problems with our government, society, and legal system but there is no way that the government would hear me (or anyone else) out on the subject and actually consider changing. there are critical situations that NEED to be dealt with NOW and no one is taking any steps towards it - more than that, in many cases they are making the situation far worse. a revolution seems to be the only way anything is going to change
our current system is not just working in the polar opposite direction, it’s also gaining speed. there is not enough time to slow it down (assuming things went perfectly), stop, and turn it around to attend to the growing threats to the future. and the sad part of this is that the proverb “you reap what you sow” does not apply, it is now “your children, your grand children, your great grand children, reap what you sow”.
oh well…