[quote=“Abadd”]sigh
Did nobody see my post in the other thread where the guy “announced” the Sega line up for E3?
Did nobody notice that PDS2 was in that list, and I said the entire list was full of crap?[/quote]
Notice they said, “soon.” They didn’t say how soon. For all we know it could surface at E3 next year.
Plus, it’s in the rumors section.
“Soon” implies in the near future. “At some point” would mean something totally different.
If they’re going to make a sequel to Saga, they might as well reinvent the original one and bundle pack it with the sequel. You know. Just in case the story of the sequel sucks.
Spott on mate. Just give us a nice high res version of SAGA and Zwei. If SAGA II is to be made for the X-Box (BIG if though).
That way x-Box owners will have the whole story to Dragoon.
Because, you know, re-rendering the entire game, or even creating an emulator for whatever console it would be released on, would be cheap and easy… something that you could do just for sh*ts and giggles, right? 
The one used in Orta for eins couldn’t be used again? Don’t tell me you people reinvent the wheel everytime! =)
Panzer Dragoon 1 wasn’t emulated. It was ported to the PC a long time ago. PCs at the time couldn’t emulate Saturn games, so they had to port the code.
Porting is much different than emulating. Either way, it’s a whole lotta work.
I was just about to mention that.
People tend to forget how difficult it is to rerender an entire game, especially one as expansive as PDS
Especially since the real time dragon morphing of PDS wouldn’t look right with today’s realistic graphics.
Uh? No? One of X-Box2’s tech demos was actually an amazing morphing creature of some sort…
Maybe Abadd next consoles are so powerful that emulation will indeed not be too hard? Atleast not as hard as now? But like it would be emulated to look right but without caring for the speed since the new consoles could possibly handle it at fullspeed even if badly implemented? Like how now you need a 3Ghz PC or something like that to run Saturn emulators and still not perfect? That’s obviously bad implementation but who cares if a console will be able to handle it fullspeed? Don’t need re-rendering btw, the graphics are still fine to me 
Higher res and texture filtering options and such might be good but not necessary at all…
The problem with that is despite the great story, most people aren’t going to be able to get past the horrible textures and “bad CG” (by today’s standards) to even play it long enough. It would need to be done right if you were going to do it at all, otherwise it’d be a waste of resources.
Well it worked for the new Zelda 
If they thought PD1 was worthwhile to include in PDO then I don’t see what’s the problem with PDS included with the next PDRPG… Assuming ofcourse what I said about emulation in the future is even remotely true…
It would be a nice idea, as long as it wasnt advertised as a main feature of the game it was sold with e.g. you didnt pay extra for it; I dont think that the bad graphics by today’s standards would affect the sales.
However including PDS for free still wouldnt be practical as people have said, im not 100% sure about this but I think even next gen consoles wont be able to fully emulate the saturn. The best emulators around at the moment can emulate the saturn full speed but the graphics and sound are still far from perfect. Sega would have to write their own emulator which I think would be hard for them to do even though they know perfectly how the saturn works.
We’ve only seen giri giri’s hack though, we dunno how the official version fares…
I think that even if PDS were included, PDS2 would not follow on the story(directly at least). It would be unfair to expect new fans to have to play through PDS to understand the new game, even if PDS were packaged with it.
I’ve heard (although I’m not sure how true this is) that Sega do not claim that the official emulator plays Panzer Dragoon Saga. I’m not sure how accurate that information is, but if it’s true than I’d I assume it would be because the game is ultimately buggy under the emulation (as with the GiriGiri we know). The problem is not only that making emulators is awkward (and making a specific emulator just for one game would be pretty awkward), but that the Saturn is evidently a real monster to emulate correctly.
[quote=“al3xand3r”]Well it worked for the new Zelda
If they thought PD1 was worthwhile to include in PDO then I don’t see what’s the problem with PDS included with the next PDRPG… [/quote]
I’ve often thought that it would be a really nice idea to package PDS with a new PD RPG (as you say, like PDO and PD1, or like Zelda: The Wind Waker and Zelda: Ocarina of Time). From a financial standpoint though, the creation of a PDS-specific emulator might be seen as more trouble than it was worth, especially when that extra cash could be ploughed into making the new game that much better.
You never know what dreaming can do. Way back before the days of the Dreamcast I’ve always thought about a 3D Ecco the Dolphin. Then of course I got my wish and found out Ecco should’ve stayed 2D. 
But I’m just saying that you never know what the future may hold. And Ecco wasn’t exactly a profitable or well known license either.
i thought defender of the future was an amazing game so beautiful and atmospheric. it also stayed true to the themes of ecco (intelligent puzzle desgin without forgetting about the rest of the gameplay, creative environments, and a surprisingly great story even though it’s about a dolphin fighting aliens). i’m not sure if it’s my favorite ecco in the series, but the only one i would consider putting above it is the tides of time. the original was good too, but the tides of time really expanded on it and introduced so many new things.
Oh yeah. I’ll admit that. I defended the game when other people were trashing it. In fact it did a much better job at 3D than Sonic did. But the music and enemies and plot just felt disconnected from the other games. But I actually DID beat it. And you can be sure if I beat a game I actually liked it.