The end is nigh

You are maybe touching on something that surprised me a little about SotC there dragoon lover. Most of the impressions I’ve ever picked up on were usually vaguely apologetic of the fact ‘all you do is kill 16 big enemies’, as well as a trend of being down on the graphics, even from people who like the game. So that’s the one thing I wasn’t expecting, just how amazingly put together the entire landscape was, and how engaging the rest of the gameplay is even aside from the Colossi.

I don’t need to be killing things to feel like I’m doing something (I’m not saying you do dragoonlover, I’m only making my own point) and in truth that’s why it’s a better game for me. The combat elements in ICO were yet another part where I could not help drawing parallels to Tomb Raider, in both games it’s just an extremely rudimentary counterpoint to the puzzle solving and environment progression. And in both games it serves a worthy purpose, but I always felt the amount of fighting could have been cut in half for ICO, far too many instances of doing the same pattern over and over just waiting for the spawning to end or buy enough free space to exit or whatever.

Sorry, just wanted to illustrate why I actually felt like I’d done a lot more by the end of SotC, even though it probly didn’t take much longer. And again the graphics… just amazing. They aren’t playing to the PS2’s strengths in the same way most of the “best looking” later generation games do, and because it’s so texture driven it comes across more uneven in places. But for everything the game is actually doing I’m almost more impressed with the engine than anything else I’ve seen.

I happen to own a Playstation 3, plus I also stood by Sega during those Saturn years and still love my Saturn.

So why in ownership of a PS3 do I feel like I have commited a crime akin to mass child molestation?

Jesus Christ, a world where you are defined by your choice of games console. I’m just going to do something that doesnt involve some form of enlistment in a twisted fanboy army.

To the rest of you, I am so incredibly sorry that I own a product that you do not approve of, can I start overdosing on pills to please you?

waoko, whenever I see a post like that, where someone seems to take a few liberal comments so personally that they then implicitly represent [this] entire thread so far as being about something it so clearly isn’t

Well I usually say something predatory and entrapping, but I’m trying to restrain myself more. Please perhaps examine your reaction there, and consider if you’re truly sure about where that outrage over a few other peoples hard earned emotions comes from?

[quote]I happen to own a Playstation 3, plus I also stood by Sega during those Saturn years and still love my Saturn.

So why in ownership of a PS3 do I feel like I have commited a crime akin to mass child molestation?

Jesus Christ, a world where you are defined by your choice of games console. I’m just going to do something that doesnt involve some form of enlistment in a twisted fanboy army.

To the rest of you, I am so incredibly sorry that I own a product that you do not approve of, can I start overdosing on pills to please you?[/quote]

Relax. I own a PS3 as well, and I, too, stuck with Sega from the Genesis to the Dreamcast. I owned a Saturn, a 32X, etc., grew up with classics, anticipated games like Panzer Dragoon Saga and Shenmue (seriously, I would stare at the pictures of PDS in EGM for hours, wanting it to no end).

You haven’t done anything wrong. Long time Sega fans are reasonably bitter towards Sony for their history and what they did to Sega. If you ask me, Sega still made some of the best games, and since the fall of the Dreamcast, the industry has never been the same. We see the occasional moment of brilliance, but we’re never bombarded with the constant stream of jaw dropping stuff that the Saturn, etc., provided.

That said, don’t take it to heart. All systems will have their fanboys, their trolls, their lovers, their haters. I hate Sony. I do. But I love Metal Gear Solid and I love Team Ico, so I’m not going to apologize for buying a PS3. I’m doing what’s best for me, as a gamer, not what’s best in the eyes of other gamers. Be happy with your PS3 and brush off the people who hate it; they have their reasons, some far more respectable than others, but none of them truly influential on your life.

I don’t think this news marks the end of the PS3. Reports seem to go either way of people claiming the PS3 is in a good position to take the lead, and others claiming it’s in trouble. It still has a number of exclusives up it’s sleeve and the future of this console generation should be interesting, to say the least.

Still, it all makes me long for those days of the Playstation versus the Saturn. Maybe if Sony hadn’t bought up exclusives (which is what Microsoft is doing now, as I understand), the Saturn would’ve been a different beast - but thinking of it that way, would we really want it to be different?

Also, first post here in a looong time.

Yeah at least three other posters in this thread have a PS3, including myself. But any and all evidence that Sony’s unholy grip on certain people’s perception of reality is loosening still makes me somewhat happier. It’s just too bad the software scene is becoming so homogenized as well, or I’d have super high expectations for this generation.

It’s still fascinating to me that I’ve yet to have a game library for any console larger than what I had on the Saturn. Heh. Granted, quite a fair number of them were imported, but still… I have more Saturn games than I do for the 360, PS3, and Wii combined at the moment.

This is due to change though. There’s a lot of great games releasing over the next 12 months. Gaming sure is an expensive hobby.

As a serial monogamist I’ve kind of moved from Saturn to Dreamcast to XBOX, even middle-of-the-road games have a greater allure to them if they are at least interesting exclusives that showcase your precious hardware in some way. heh So my library for each is probably very comparable. That said, nothing comes close to to my sentimental attachment for the Saturn games, obviously.

At the moment it’d be a little too close to being money I don’t have to get a Wii, even though my intention was never to get a PS3 before that… damn Sony’s tricks! But for once I’m set to be a responsible teh HaRd-c0r3z gamer and be like totally and 100% unbiased this gen… >_>

[quote=“Parn”]It’s still fascinating to me that I’ve yet to have a game library for any console larger than what I had on the Saturn. Heh. Granted, quite a fair number of them were imported, but still… I have more Saturn games than I do for the 360, PS3, and Wii combined at the moment.

This is due to change though. There’s a lot of great games releasing over the next 12 months. Gaming sure is an expensive hobby.[/quote]

Yeah me too, I have like 250 Saturn games and also still picking up the odd bargain and cheap title now and and again , funny thing is I also have more Mega CD games that for any of the other consoles I own too

Love the systems to bits .

These days I finish a game and tend to sell it on , though I used to have a massive amount of X-Box games (most picked up on the cheap) but sold a lot of those to pay for other things