Panzer Dragoon music box

Yeah it’s quite ugly actually… Should have been made out of wood or something and have nice carvings on the outside… Or if they still wanted it plastic or whatever it is, make it look like the ancient engines material and again have a nice shape on the top or front or somewhere…

www.videogameimports.com

Oh me too loved that Towel, Shame decathelete was utter sh8t onthe PS2. Good job SEGA dumped Ages 3D

But it’s official!!!one

[quote=“Lance Way”]

What site did you order it from, TA? If anyone has it up for order already I’ll head there too…

It’s a graphically enhanced port of an eleven-year-old game that’s not going to be given a release outside of Japan. There was a playable demo of it at last year’s Tokyo Game Show that only one website was interested enough to post images of. Surely it’s the very definition of low profile? :confused:

However, I didn’t know it was normal for Sega Ages games to get promotional items. Though a music box still surprises me more than a T-Shirt would…[/quote]

It only been normal since Sega took over the SEGA AGES series themselves. It’s treated as a celebration of Sega’s past now than a remake series in 3D.|They’ve even given something for DYNAMITE DEKA or DIE HARD ARCADE as many of you know it too.
Again because its not in the west doesn’t make the game low profile. EA’s Black prolly won’t be released in japan but hey that makes it’s low profile too since not many japanese websites covered the game too.

I’m not just talking about English websites in relation to this; virtually no sites, either English or Japanese or any other language, showed any real interest in this game when it was unveiled back at the TGS. For that matter, Sega of Japan didn’t seem particularly eager to spend time publicising it either, as opposed to their genuinely high profile games for which they roll out the hype wagon months and months prior to their release.

Sega Ages PD is a re-release of a retro game that isn’t from a tier one gaming series, either here or in Japan: even in the country where people are going to be buying it, it’s going to appeal only to a niche audience. It’s clearly not a high-budget project on Sega’s part, being a polised port of an old game, and overall it seems to be the antithesis of what you’d call a high-profile title.

Compare it to Ryu ga Gotoku, for example, which unquestionably is a high-profile Japanese title. When that was unveiled, it didn’t matter that it was only planned for release in Japan, because websites the world over were interested, including the big English players like GameSpot and IGN who gave it more than cursory recognition. The day it was unveiled we had info, we had images, we had a trailer movie, and Sega rolled out a pretty excessive Flash website to get people’s attention. The game had a fairly massive budget and was clearly hoped to make a massive amount of money back. The Sega Ages Panzer Dragoon is the opposite of that game in almost every respect: it’s a niche release that isn’t venturing much and isn’t gaining much for Sega. It is categorically not high-profile.

That’s complete rubbish Lance. Sega fully previewed the game on their website which they always do with any game that they are about to release. And i very much doubt you been to every japanese game site to say that. Even the major ones would have some coverage on this game most likely prior to release. And Sega has good returns for the series so far since the games cost next to nothing to make. Obviously not a MAJOR title but its not a low profile title either.

In what way do you believe that to be “rubbish”? As far as I’m aware what I pointed out in the above post is elementary, so I’d be interested to hear what you think is so ridiculous about it.

No, they did not. Their page for the game only went up at the beginning of January, whereas the game was unveiled last September; as I said, they weren’t pushing it publicity-wise, which is understandable given the nature of the game. The only media relating to the game on their site before that time was a two-second clip in the middle of a general Sega Ages video.

No, I used Google like most people would. At the time the game was unveiled and in the weeks that followed I did a surprising amount of searching for info on the Sega Ages Panzer Dragoon, obviously with both English and Japanese search terms. And as I said, next to no sites seemed interested in it, with most just giving it a cursory mention if they mentioned it at all. If you can dredge up more than one or two Japanese reports from last September that do more than post the most basic details about the game (or provide any media whatsoever), I’d be interested to see them.

But in what way can it be considered important - what do you believe makes it not low profile? Retro games from non-tier-one gaming series simply fill a niche slot: the majority of people who make up the gamesplaying userbases just aren’t interested in them at all. Perhaps if this was a Square or Nintendo franchise re-release then it might be getting people’s attention and receiving more than cursory coverage, but it isn’t, and it isn’t. And if the Sega Ages releases were anything but low-profile niche titles, why do you think Sega aren’t releasing them outside of Japan? Almost all of the games in the range were released in the West originally, so it’s hardly their content that’s the issue; it’s their very nature. Sega evidently doesn’t believe that they’d even be worth the cost of localising and releasing over here again.

I have to say, I agree entirely with Lance.
As awesome as PD is (and the recent Sega Ages releases in general), it isn’t in the same league as Ryu ga Gotoku/Mushi King - or even the likes of Sonic Rush.
The Sega Ages range is a budget label, and it’s main business purpose is to recycle old licenses on the platform with the biggest userbase to garner some easy sales.

[quote=“Lance Way”]

In what way do you believe that to be “rubbish”? As far as I’m aware what I pointed out in the above post is elementary, so I’d be interested to hear what you think is so ridiculous about it.

No, they did not. Their page for the game only went up at the beginning of January, whereas the game was unveiled last September; as I said, they weren’t pushing it publicity-wise, which is understandable given the nature of the game. The only media relating to the game on their site before that time was a two-second clip in the middle of a general Sega Ages video.

No, I used Google like most people would. At the time the game was unveiled and in the weeks that followed I did a surprising amount of searching for info on the Sega Ages Panzer Dragoon, obviously with both English and Japanese search terms. And as I said, next to no sites seemed interested in it, with most just giving it a cursory mention if they mentioned it at all. If you can dredge up more than one or two Japanese reports from last September that do more than post the most basic details about the game (or provide any media whatsoever), I’d be interested to see them.

But in what way can it be considered important - what do you believe makes it not low profile? Retro games from non-tier-one gaming series simply fill a niche slot: the majority of people who make up the gamesplaying userbases just aren’t interested in them at all. Perhaps if this was a Square or Nintendo franchise re-release then it might be getting people’s attention and receiving more than cursory coverage, but it isn’t, and it isn’t. And if the Sega Ages releases were anything but low-profile niche titles, why do you think Sega aren’t releasing them outside of Japan? Almost all of the games in the range were released in the West originally, so it’s hardly their content that’s the issue; it’s their very nature. Sega evidently doesn’t believe that they’d even be worth the cost of localising and releasing over here again.[/quote]

Everything you said is utter rubbish. I found several sites giving the Sega ages a mention on japanese news sites at the period of TGS 05. Trying to make out you couldn’t find it through google just doesn’t prove your point apart that your crap at finding sites. Most of the pages that talked about them are gone now anyway not that i need to prove that since most japanese webpages update on a regular basis.

Second… Because the title isn’t localised makes it not a major series? Well i guess you should send that memo to Sega and the SAKURA TAISEN license which has never been translated in its entirety as a series. neither has the TSUKURO (Let’s make a Pro)series which could easily make the translation with a few elements changed to western tastes. But this big money earners in Asia don’t count because they’re not availabe in the west which means to you: Not popular and not a high profile series.

Thirdly. Sega Japan always open their pages late after an announcement. PD been opened since december the same time they opened CHROMEHOUNDS web page. And i know this for a fact. Games like KOUMA has been on the coming soon list at the PS2 section for over three years now while other games pop up but not fully opening until a month later or nearer to release. Look at SHINING WIND that has recently appeared on the list with a big preview at the famitsu magazine. Yet Sega hasn’t opened the web page AND its website yet. WHY? Because they open them up nearer to its release date and or when the game is nearly completed in coding. Usually a full two months before it comes out.

Forthly its a high profile series in the sense its well known and given certain attention. I’m not talking about PANZER DRAGOON but the whole SEGA AGES series. Because they are rereleases with slight modifications of classic Sega IP the series will get some attention and the company will treat it with some respect which they have done with the way they handling the series. Not a major profile series like LOVE AND BERRY,MUSHI KING and SONIC granted(like Kimimi said) but not a series widely ignored like you would think.

Alright Goonboy, I can see that you’re itching for a flamefest and I’m not going to take the bait over something so trivial. Your above post seems to indicate that you think my argument is “rubbish” because you’re skim-reading my posts without paying attention to what I’m actually writing.

I mean, Sakura Taisen? I made it clear in my last post that I was talking about the Sega Ages’ games general nature being the thing that holds them back (i.e. they’re retro re-releases), rather than the content of the games themselves (which is the issue with Sakura Taisen); so you’re trying to argue against a point I was intelligent enough not to make, apparently because you just want to argue.

Your other points are either short of being correct or they’re also arguing against things that I’m not saying, which makes me wonder why I even bothered with this in the first place. Frankly I have better things to do than waste my time on this kind of one-way argument, so I’m quite content to leave it at this.

Funny thing is that you actually think you ARE correct. Best laugh i had this mornining.

SEGA are also doing a Super DC Pack with comes with a Panzer Badge, music box, music CD and of coruse the game .

Happy Days !!!

Super DC? Could you clarify a bit please?

I think TA meant “Super DX Pack”, as in “Super Deluxe Pack” - more deluxe than the previously mentioned deluxe pack. That’s what Sega Japan are labeling it anyhow, as it’s listed on the SegaDirect page next to the other pack and the “just the game” pack:

segadirect.jp/Catalog/CustomPage … 27_ps2.htm

According to that the soundtrack CD will be available to buy separately, too.

[quote=“Lance Way”]I think TA meant “Super DX Pack”, as in “Super Deluxe Pack” - more deluxe than the previously mentioned deluxe pack. That’s what Sega Japan are labeling it anyhow, as it’s listed on the SegaDirect page next to the other pack and the “just the game” pack:

segadirect.jp/Catalog/CustomPage … 27_ps2.htm

According to that the soundtrack CD will be available to buy separately, too.[/quote]

Cheers lance, that 's what I ment. Still have the Dreamcast onthe brain :wink:

Anyone found a place you could preorder this?

videogameimports.com/ have the DX pack, and the Super DX pack.